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  Helicopters now complying with County
Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2010 @ 22:41:25 EST by admin

Investigative reports

July update - Lantana Airport & helicopters

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Find out what's been going on since the petition signing began on April 24th and how effective the 227 signatures were at improving the situation with helicopter training schools.

Statement made to the County Commission July 20th

in behalf of the communities surrounding Lantana Airport

July 20th, 2010 Tuesday
Statement made by William Coakley/Lantana Airport Agenda Item 8, matters of the public

I’m William Coakley (5934 Lake Osborne Dr/Lantana) and with me today is Larry Silver who is also a Lake Osborne Estates resident and is Chairman of the board of Directors of that Civic Association.



This is about helicopter training schools at Lantana Airport and their non compliance to measures you put into place to protect the communities from the ravages of helicopter training over their homes and families.

And I want to begin by thanking everyone who helped us get to this point including Commissioner Vana and her staff and Commissioner Marcus and her staff for taking an interest as well.


For the past seven months, an exhaustive full time effort has been made in cooperation with the DOA [Department of Airports] to get helicopter training schools at Lantana Airport to comply to these protective measures you established fifteen years ago.

These protective measures are known as NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES and they represent common sense good neighbor standards which are inherent to any Landlord Tenant agreement. They make it very clear that helicopter training should never be conducted over populated areas and should remain above the airport or at another location.

I have with me a petition of 227 resident signatures from all the communities surrounding the airport …confirming that until the past few weeks …helicopter schools chose not to comply with your NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES… and this non compliance has caused harm to the communities.

This defiance was deliberate, willful, consistent and universal among helicopter operators at the airport including your tenant. 2:00 minutes

Fortunately this problem is being addressed by Commissioner Vana’s office but since all airport matters are voted on by this honorable body, petitioners are asking that you all speak with one voice insisting that compliance is necessary for the protection of the public.

Although we are cautiously optimistic concerning the few weeks of cooperation from the tenant training school …we would hope you keep in mind that it took seven months of combined full-time effort from our communities and the DOA [Department of Airports] to achieve this level of compliance… and petitioners are asking that you do something so that we don’t have to go through another grueling seven months ending up here again just to get another brief period of compliance from your tenant.

Time permitting we like to meet with each of you and look forward to answering any questions you have.

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the goal here today is to introduce the topic


 
 

 
 
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Re: Helicopters now complying with County (Score: 1)
by icebox on Thursday, December 09, 2010 @ 12:47:56 EST
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Yay! I am happy there is a petition for something that is already being conformed with... FAA Established Procedures for LNA Airport. Do you really believe that helicopters fly patterns (yes, surprisingly enough, helicopters have and do fly PATTERNS.. it's why you hear the noise repetitiously every several minutes... A non-pattern flight would not offer such consistent repetition) over a housing community at 100-150 feet AGL? Seriously? That's both idiotic and unsafe. Helicopter pilots flying out of training schools DO NOT turn out of an upwind leg from LNA in any direction WITHOUT reaching 400-500 ft AGL. Doing so would severely limit a helicopters ability to auto-rotate safely into an open area. I imagined ANY pilot would understand or at least comprehend the potential energy altitude offers to safely get back to the ground in the even of engine failure. Obviously, I'm wrong. Furthermore, you or anyone other member of this community is in no position to "guess-timate" what altitude ANY aircraft is flying without:

A: Being in the aircraft observing an altimeter
B: Have a piece of distance measuring equipment on the ground with some degree of accuracy AND being DIRECTLY below the aircraft or object at the time of distance measurement.

Although I'm sure early turns in ANY aircraft at a lower than established required pattern altitude have occurred, it is by no means a habit or acceptable procedure in most cases.

Noone is out to "get" your community people! That airport has been a part of this area since before 95% of the housing here now even existed. That airport has more right to be a part of this community more than we do. Thank you for understanding your place in the world, and for your conscious decision to move near an airport that supports our Aviation Industry. I am sure you'll one day come to terms with your decision, or move elsewhere.




 
 

 
 

Re: Helicopters now complying with County (Score: 1)
by William_Coakley on Thursday, December 09, 2010 @ 14:42:30 EST
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If you have time, there is plenty of good information on this site such as looking at the ‘good neighbor’ standards or guidelines which describe exactly what the County expects of Tenant helicopter training schools.

The extensive archive of documentation referred to on this site also including 900 reports from March to November ...shows NO compliance as anyone living here knows.

And all this really shows is …trusting the integrity of a corporation to respect the public OR the County… is just plain expecting too much when integrity is one thing… but profits are everything.

As for patterns, it’s helter skelter, sometimes they train in patterns and often times not and mayhem is not uncommon with helicopters using inactive runways or using left hand patterns.

And then we have the Jet Copters that like doing engine out maneuvers over residential areas… it’s all in an extensive video archive …tidbits of which are posted in articles on this site.

As for altitudes and turns, I agree with you that there should be some concern for safety… but in the past it was a habitual problem and especially problematic are incidents caught on video where helicopters were buzzing homes as little as 52 feet MSL which means they were only 20 feet above the roof top. These again are fully documented with traces from PB radar.

Our documentation includes laser measurement which confirms the altitudes in addition to the professional observations of a Commercial, instrument and multi-engine rated pilot. And BTW, for the past twenty years or so, you don’t have to be under the aircraft to get its altitude accurately measured. I can refer you to some old articles on laser measurement technology if you like.

And most altitudes referred to here are confirmed with Palm Beach Radar traces… so I don’t know where you’re getting your information but I might suggest a more reliable source a little more up to date.

As far as the airports right to exist… no one disputes that. The only dispute is over the right of a corporation to harass the public with a daily assault from the air when the County asked them not to do it.




 
 

 
 
 
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